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[zymurgy]

Aww... Fred died!? You can't kill Fred! *sobs*
Actually, I'm wondering more how George took that, that could be why they're all so tetchy about it.

[evlpez]

Agrippa,

“Yeah,” said Serena. James rolled his eyes, but Lily took no notice.

Lily had already left the compartment. Did you mean "Serena took no notice"?

Aww... Fred died!? You can't kill Fred! *sobs*
Actually, I'm wondering more how George took that, that could be why they're all so tetchy about it.

I'm thinking the 'tetchiness' comes more from airing family laundry in front of outsiders. By this time, the Weasleys and Potters would be really famous and always in the public eye. Just my :2cents:.

Bakbam - what was your intention with James' line, "Enough, already..."

[agrippa]

Agrippa,

“Yeah,” said Serena. James rolled his eyes, but Lily took no notice.

Right. I'll fix it. I originally had that speech in Lily's mouth - then realized she was gone!

[bakbam]

Bakbam - what was your intention with James' line, "Enough, already..."

I got rid of the already. It just didn't sound right during my reread. Thats enough meaning basically to hush.

I love the Dursley surprise. I think that will be very fun to play with.

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Aww... Fred died!? You can't kill Fred! *sobs*
Actually, I'm wondering more how George took that, that could be why they're all so tetchy about it. 

I'm thinking the 'tetchiness' comes more from airing family laundry in front of outsiders. By this time, the Weasleys and Potters would be really famous and always in the public eye. Just my .

I was thinking that The Weasleys and Potters had rid the world of the evil dark lord, but now have to deal with the vengeful children of fallen death eaters. The new era of evil. Maybe young Dursley has befriended their children with intent to bring down the Potter's for causing the death of Vernon. I don't know if any of that makes any sense. It makes sense in my poor abused mind.

[agrippa]

I was thinking that The Weasleys and Potters had rid the world of the evil dark lord, but now have to deal with the vengeful children of fallen death eaters. The new era of evil. Maybe young Dursley has befriended their children with intent to bring down the Potter's for causing the death of Vernon. I don't know if any of that makes any sense. It makes sense in my poor abused mind.

Hmmm... I was really hoping to go a different route - not that I have any idea of which way to go. That's why I suggested someone other than a Malfoy to evlpez. I mean, even if Voldemort is vanquished and all of his supporters are in Azkaban or (even better) dead, there's still plenty of reasons at any school for kids to dislike each other. My thought is that Vernon is not dead, just that Dudley's not telling him about this, prentending that he's gone off to Smeltings or somewhere. And that Duke's always been jealous of James' magical family.

Duke, then, is your standard bully - sharp-toungued kid with large friends.

[evlpez]

I can't wait to see the Sorting Hat's song! Yaay!

[evlpez]

Well, that was quick!

YAY! GREAT song from the hat, agrippa!!!

[ronsmyman]

I'm getting caught up so forgive me if this has already been brought up, but in the chapter that evlpez and agrippa co-wrote, shouldn't it be that Duke and James share great-grandparents rather than great-great grandparents, I mean they share those as well, but great grandparents is closer, I wrote out a little family tree and it looks right to me, but hey I could be wrong. All those years in a genealogy library may have addled my brain.

[agrippa]

I'm getting caught up so forgive me if this has already been brought up, but in the chapter that evlpez and agrippa co-wrote, shouldn't it be that Duke and James share great-grandparents rather than great-great grandparents, I mean they share those as well, but great grandparents is closer, I wrote out a little family tree and it looks right to me, but hey I could be wrong. All those years in a genealogy library may have addled my brain.

Hmmm... let's see.

James' side:
Dad: Harry
Grandmother: Lily
Great-grandparents: Lily and Petunia's mom and dad

Duke's side:
Dad: Dudley
Grandmohter: Petunia
Great-grandparents: Lily and Petunia's mom and dad

Egad! You're right. I'm going to go back and fix it.

[agrippa]

Nice addition, evlpez. Well written!

[evlpez]

Thanks, agrippa. I took a little extra time on this. I wanted the conversation with the hat to be right, and I tried to show how the mind of a nervous 11 year old can wander and concentrate intermittantly (sp?). Anyway, I'm not sure I'm completely happy with it, but it's done... he's sorted.
Thanks for the song, by the way. It was great!
I can't wait to see how the first week goes, and to meet all the Weasley cousins.

[agrippa]

Bakbam - great work! I love Finley and Fiona - I think they'll be fun to write. Good Scotch-Irish names

Latin note: the charm is "Expecto Patronum."

General note to all three of us: are we all writing James consistantly? I feel like he's going through a lot of mood swings depending on who's writing him. Anybody else notice that?

I'm trying to get in the mind of an 11 year old. My thought is that he still loves (and needs his family) even though wanting to "be his own man." But is there something else? For instance, is there another reason - besides "I don't like my family" - that Harry is so curt with Carson and Allan? or that Harry calls Finley a "git"?

I'm really interested to see if we can develop Allan Smith as more than a Neville clone.

[evlpez]

Way to go, bakbam! GREAT names! (My kids have Irish names too - Maeve & Liam )

General note to all three of us: are we all writing James consistantly? I feel like he's going through a lot of mood swings depending on who's writing him. Anybody else notice that?

I've noticed it. My intention with James was much like you describe him, agrippa.
He loves his family, but he's very independent. Wanting to be his own person isn't about ambition so much as it's about finding out how he fits in the world and his 'purpose' in life. It's kind of a spiritual thing, I guess. (Not your average 11 year old.) He's very intelligent, with a sarcastic side we haven't really touched on yet. He has Hermione's gift of common sense (which is why I think he will often think of her), and Ginny & Harry's love for quidditch and an appreciation for all the fun that happens around him, in a large family. In a group, he can become friendly and celebrational, but alone we'll often see the contemplative James, a darker James. Now that school is starting, we'll see more about how he deals with things that happen around him and how he interacts with others.

I don't see his curtness with Carson and Allan as a view that he doesn't like his family. I think it had more to do with not wanting to be in the shadow of his family's accomplishments and fame. You can imagine that most strangers he meets immediately see him as part of the Potter/Weasley legacy and are reluctant to recognize him as a separate entity. He's tired of hearing, "Hey, you're Harry Potter's son, aren't you?"

As for calling Finley a "git", there may be more to Finley that we don't know yet. Being Fleur's child (yay for Bill & Fleur!) he may have a bit of the french/veela arrogance in him that is contrary to the usual Weasley easygoing friendliness.
James in particular would be offended and disgusted by a family member who would take advantage of the fame and high regard that comes with being a Weasley and related to Harry Potter. (Am I close here, bakbam?)

I like Allan and Carson so far. Let's see how much we can remove the "Neville" and "Seamus or Dean" that I'm seeing in them right now. I'm interested in seeing how Allan deals with Snape.

[bakbam]

I fixed the password

I was definetly trying to make Finley and Fiona different from the others in the family. I don't see them as down to earth and friendly as the rest. They have been raised in high regard of themselves. We all have someone in our family who thinks they are "better" then everyone else.I see them as this person in the Weasley family. I don't see the others not liking them. They just get aggravated with them at times.

With Carson and Allan I was just introducing them a little. I am hoping that we see them more often . I see a friendship between the four. I also see Allan as a cross between shy Neville and the scared side of Ron. Carson of course has been brought up in a wizard family where the stories of Harry are well known. He has a great respect in James for names sake.

If you remember in the first book DD was trying to keep Harry away from all the fame that went with his name. James has not been able to escape from this fame. Who is he because of the fame? I see him as a moody confused 11 year old boy. After school has started and everyone is use to the famous offspring things will settledown and James can develop more into "himself".

[McGonagall's Cat]

Wow! You have all made such a delightful trip into James' and crew's lives so far. Kudos to everyone!



Bakbam, I'm glad you mentioned about James not having the advantage DD gave Harry of growing up close to "normal" and untainted by fame and wealth. I saw that as affecting him quite a bit, though not in the same manner as it would have Harry (due to James being in the shadow of a parent's legacy rather than being the actual one oneself as Harry was).

And I TOTALLY love the reference to the swamp!

She pointed out a small area of swamp to Phillip.

"This was done about 20 years ago by Uncle Fred and Dad.

Wonderful!!