A modest proposal, old - thread closed Options

[McGonagall's Cat]

First, Ginny we're all supposed to pose ideas here, so You Go Gurl!

then:

Perhaps this treatment he is given not only restores most of his memories, but builds of a feeling of mistreatment, which, cultivated [like Lockhart's might be after being confined to hospital] might result in abnormal hatred, or thirst for vengeance? This would explain why he'd go to such lengths for revenge

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What if, the treatment fixes the prob but ultimately dooms the patient? Perhaps it cures the maddness, but he dies in 3 yrs - quality over quantity... or better, turns him into a vampire or werewolf? With some sort of "powerful" blood he could possibly pull off a spell that could take over the wards on the Quidditch stadium....

but builds of a feeling of mistreatment, which, cultivated [like Lockhart's might be after being confined to hospital] might result in abnormal hatred, or thirst for vengeance?

what if the treatment is only partially successful? Like it seems to have cured the madness, but his doing whatever shows he's still really crazy just in a different way?

[GinnyAuror00]

Aw...thanks!

What if, the treatment fixes the prob but ultimately dooms the patient? Perhaps it cures the maddness, but he dies in 3 yrs - quality over quantity... or better, turns him into a vampire or werewolf? With some sort of "powerful" blood he could possibly pull off a spell that could take over the wards on the Quidditch stadium....

Mmmm! Liking the 'powerful blood' factor here....but what if Lockhart didn't know--and neither did Jacobson? Perhaps all they [he and his wife] are conversing about are the changes they seem to be noticing in him?

Or better yet, more physical changes? And they believe [not yet know] that mental changes might follow! Or maybe this could be a textbook case, because all Jacobson did was accidentaly recreate something that someone did a long time ago, and was banned-with all records destroyed because of how dangerous it was to the patient? So he looks it up one night, and finds it in a medical book that he really shouldn't have...and gets really scared because it seems to be that the patient's rational side of the brain slowly begins to deteriorate? Also, the patient becomes more prone to fits of anger...

And perhaps an extra side-effect that Jacobson added when he 'recreated it' was a certain degree of power...?

[evlpez]

What if the treatment Jacobson used to cure Lockhart of his memory charm problem had to do with using some very old and very powerful Dark magic? The desired result was that he'd hopefully regain his memory and capacity, but the undesired side-effect (which Jacobson was aware might occur) was that the powerful Dark magic itself would possess Lockhart and instill him with hatred, Dark purpose and the power to possibly become the next "Dark Lord". Jacobson might be keeping tabs on Lockhart because he believes that his treatment was mild enough to have a small measure of the desired effect, and is trying to make sure it worked enough to give himself a good name, but not enough to have caused the undesired side-effect. In fact, what Jacobson doesn't know is that Lockhart is not only feigning his harmless ineptitude, but that he's put on an act that got him a job inside the very building where he'd have the most powerful governing witches and wizards in the same place at the same time. If he obliterated the Hogwarts stadium full of government people, top law enforcement and the biggest living Hero of all time (Harry), he could almost take over the wizarding world uncontested.

[McGonagall's Cat]

< bouncing up and down in chair with excitement >

Both of those (Ginny's & EvlPez's) fit together and work! What a great plot!

The old Medi-Spell text could be partially messed up (pieces of page missing or damaged or something)... perhaps Jacobsen and Wiles were trying to smuggle in "containment"? Either the Potions ingredients or a magical stone that draws down the particulary negative Lockhart energies? Basically, J&W are trying to cover his/their butt/mistake so that the Council won't block future study and experimentations [that J&W need because someone they love is going through same memory prob/madness as Lockhart (or maybe J&W think it fixes certain major mis-fired spells - like "the cure for cancer" fabled fix) and they tried it out on Lockhart first in case some prob did develop before trying it on their person... or they are related to a really bad wizard and are trying to prove it was the fault of this spell and clear that person's name, plus figure a way to make the spell safe... or even for the "fame and glory" of making it work when Merlin or Grindewald or someone failed?]. It would fit right in with EvlPez's & Ginny's hot ideas!

E's - Jacobson might be keeping tabs on Lockhart because he believes that his treatment was mild enough to have a small measure of the desired effect, and is trying to make sure it worked enough to give himself a good name, but not enough to have caused the undesired side-effect.
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G's - So he looks it up one night, and finds it in a medical book that he really shouldn't have...and gets really scared because it seems to be that the patient's rational side of the brain slowly begins to deteriorate?

[McGonagall's Cat]

As long as we are editing and cleaning this up, I'd like to change Duke's Lestrange buddy to one a tad less shockingly famous... perhaps a Nott or Avery or other DE who's a bit more subtle. What do you think? TY.

[agrippa]

That's not a bad idea. It might give us more "wiggle room".

[agrippa]

Well, folks, we don't seem to have any real agreement. So the mods think it would be best if we opened up J2H for people to write. I think we should all feel free to use any of the ideas discussed here, and we'll just see what happens.

[McGonagall's Cat]

Any preferences as to the change of Lestrange name? If anyone has a favourite, please share.... Below are a few from the Lexicon that might be reasonable candidates. :

Rookwood, Augustus
Spy in the Ministry, worked for the Department of Mysteries but had agents throughout the Ministry, not all of whom knew who they were really working for. (For example, Rookwood was an old friend of Ludo Bagman's father, and Bagman passed him information, apparently quite innocently.) Karkaroff named Rookwood during his own trial (GF30), and Rookwood was sent to Azkaban but escaped in the mass breakout of January 1996 (OP25). Rookwood fought in the Battle of the Department of Mysteries (OP35).

Rosier, Evan
Killed by Aurors c. 1980, shortly after Karkaroff's capture, while resisting arrest, taking a big chunk out of "Mad-Eye" Moody's nose in the process (GF27, 30).
Evan = Greek, 'of noble birth', appropriate for a typical Death Eater with pureblood prejudices.
Rosier is the name of a fallen angel (formerly holding the rank of Dominion in the angelic hierarchy). This demon may appear as either a man or a woman, and is a kind of patron devil of tainted love and seduction, especially noted for assuming a human form of great physical beauty.

Travers
Murdered the McKinnons, according to Karkaroff during his own trial (GF30).

Wilkes
Killed by Aurors c. 1980 (GF27)

[1] JKR made this comment during the Jeremy Paxman interview on the BBC, Thursday night, June 19, 2003, while looking at some of her notes on the books: "...here is the history of the Death Eaters and I don't know that I'll ever actually need it - but at some point - which were once called something different - they were called the Knights of Walpurgis. I don't know if I'll need it. But I like knowing it. I like to keep that sort of stuff on hand."

This is a play on "Walpurgis Night" - April 30th, named for Saint Walburga (whose feast day is the next day, 1 May, and who is the protectress against witchcraft and sorcery). On Walpurgis Night, witches are supposed to meet in the Harz mountains, especially near the highest point. Incidentally, Walpurgis Night stands opposite the calendar from Halloween. -- MLW

[agrippa]

I like both Travers and Wilkes, since they're obscure enough to be flexible.

I wanted to write a bit about what I'm thinking about the "cheaters" story-line. Since we (I think) want to keep most of the story in James' POV, we'll have to get a lot of this information from Penelope, Serena's Slytherin friend.

- My take is that Duke is really struggling because he's not terribly talented. So, under his tough-guy image, he's really hurting but too proud to admit it.
- In the end, it will be Neville (always a bit of a softy) who keeps him at Hogwarts. Jacobson will advocate throwing him right out, a fact which Duke will not soon forget. Perhaps he will get dragged in to the final caper somehow and end up helping the gang thwart Jacobson's evil plot.
- Maybe it would be fun if Dudley came charging up to school in a very Muggle fashion?

[McGonagall's Cat]

Brilliant plot ideas!

Just because I like Peter , Paul, & Mary, I think Travers is the one. TY! (Will go transform the young mister.)

Jacobson will advocate throwing him right out, a fact which Duke will not soon forget.

We could easily make Prof. J seem even more severe and evil with this line! Even if it turns out to just be a "Good Cop, Bad Cop" scenario.... Yea!!!