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 Jun 8 2004, 11:57 PM
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Well, I'd like to have seen the 2 new Profs smuggling in a dragon's or basillisk's egg... but I really like your idea of Lockhart wanting to get even.... so....
We should bring in dignitaries from all over for the Council and have some rip-roarin' buck-snortin' political and etc arguments. . . to the point that the grown-ups don't notice Lochart's plot?
I think it would be a hoot to have James and crew rescue Duke and his buddies from a backfired/foiled plot of their own making. Whatever Serena tried to warn them of, because it is as dangerous as Sirius sending Sniv to play with Remus.
A Manticore or Hippogriff that's been agrivated to the point of really being dangerous?... left on the staircases unable to see?.... switched Potion ingredients that turn poisonous or blow up?... false message of someone being held/in danger in the forest?... something.
What ever happened to Snape?
Could Lockhart hold the Council hostage on the Grounds or in the Castle? It would embarass all the ones he wants to get even with. Maybe he high-jacks the protective spells or something so that no one can leave, or use their magic, or...? While they're all powerful wizards, the kids could foil things by being the only ones who can slip past something without him noticing.... Harry, Ron, Hermione, George and others would know about the tunnels, so they wouldn't work as ways of escape or safe passage, or similar plot devices, but some accidentally forgotten very minor door or window might, or a wizard could conjure a portal, but for it not to draw magical attention the ones using it can't be full-fledged wizards or something else that the kids fit the definition of but the grown-ups can't somehow? Maybe he'd notice one of the big wizards missing, but overlook a kid? Perhaps the kids are the only ones who figure out the solution, while the the grown-ups are distracted (it would have to be pretty big since these folks defeated Voldy)... Duke & crew would be obligated to be an integral part of them getting out of the castle, or whatever the solutions turn out to be, even though resenting it ... like either The Diversion, or the only way is through Slytherin territory... or something.
We need more Quidditch matches. Hagrid hasn't done anything outstanding yet.
The Castle and the Portraits need to have a bit more of an active part. More classes? Getting ready for the Council?
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Jun 9 2004, 01:40 PM
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Well I was thinking that something could happen at a Quidditch match? Like all the Council members could go, to watch, to have a break from meetings? Then Harry & people would go, 'cos he loves Quidditch and maybe he has to meet the teachers 'cos he's heard something bad is going to happen so he goes just in case. Everyone else is there, 'cos it is Quidditch and all the school would go to watch wouldn't they. Maybe Duke is planing something and James finds out so he gets his mates to get them out of trouble, when it backfires at the match. Maybe they think James did it and Harry gets all mad, but realises its not him? Then Lockhart had some part to play, maybe he brainwashes Duke? Or he could have just made Duke's prank twice as bad? They are just some ideas, you don't have to use them!  
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Jun 9 2004, 03:06 PM
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Okay - let's discuss the possibilities Agrippa brought up: QUOTE 1. Lockhart is not really feeble - he's fully recovered and mad as hell, but playing "dumb." He wants revenge on the Hogwarts staff (McGonagall particularly) for forcing his hand that night he went into the chamber. He also wants revenge on Harry and Ron (and their offspring) for incapacitating him that night. Perhaps some dark wizard helped him regain his memory? (Lucius?)
2. It's Will Jacobson that's related to Dumbledore. He's Aberforth's son. His family trades in some kind of creature that the Magic Council is considering re-classifying as non-tradable. He and Alison are plotting to do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen, but they're not the real bad guys.
3. Something will happen to the witches and wizards of the magic council. (Mysterious disappearances or the like.) Although it will be Lockhart who did it (to lure Harry and Ron to rescue Hermione), James and the gang will naturally suspect Jacobson. Okay - I don't want to exclude Jacobson from any wrong-doing. We don't need another "Snape" - accused because of his past or just because he's a nasty person. I really like Agrippa's idea that perhaps his secret is that he's a Dumbledore, and that he plans to get in the way of the council voting against something in his plans. It could be a creature, but he's not exactly a CoMC kind of guy, and I think problems with the law over creatures is something more up Hagrid's alley, no? Perhaps it's an object or a spell he's inventing. I really like Lockhart as a bad guy, but would the old Lockhart endanger himself for the sake of revenge? Would recovering from his time in St. Mungos transform him enough to become the sort of person who would? Maybe it's not the school he's angry with. What if Jacobson's or Wiles' family are healers who he feels mistreated him in hospital (or changed him somehow, or ruined his reputation) and James and Co. learn just in time that it's Wiles and Jacobson they must save or protect? The kids would automatically be expecting some trouble to do with the council meeting, when in fact Lockhart uses the council meeting as a convenient distraction from what he really intends -- or Lockhart is setting Jacobson up to take a fall, and stages kidnappings of Council members with the intention of implicating Jacobson. The kids cold even have tipped Harry and other grown-ups off about their theories about Jacobson, only to have it turn out that Jacobson is the victim. Remember, we're not restricted to what we've already written - we can go back and change things a bit to suit what we want to happen.
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Jun 9 2004, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE Hmmm.... interesting idea. Jacobson an ex-healer, fired from St. Mungo's for using some unapproved method that the Magic Council is about to ban? I like it. Perhaps Lockhart's change of personality (to an evil mastermind kinda guy) is the result of Jacobson's controversial healing practices. Before St. Mungos is allowed to adopt or publicly denounce his methods, the council has to review it and pass a law. In the meantime, Jacobson is suspended from practicing at all because he's used these methods without permission. His real reason for being at Hogwarts is to secretly monitor his former patient because he (and his wife) know the possible side effects of the treatment he gave Lockhart. QUOTE Riley and Cat are right about Quidditch. A quidditch game during the Magic Council's meeting and somehow the pitch and stadium are enchanted into a trap? Absolutely - that could be the final confrontation! I mean - if Lockhart's the baddie, well... when he does something it's bound to be really big and with lots of publicity. Maybe the Council finishes deliberating around the time of Hogwarts' Quidditch Cup... good time to have press coverage at the Quidditch Pitch, and all the students, staff and Council members. Lockhart reveals himself and his plan for "world domination" by trapping all in the Stadium for... some reason. What would he want to do with them, though? QUOTE Bigger question: how are we going to reach a consensus on these issues? Once we outline a plot, we need to stick to it. But how do we go about finalizing it? A poll? Rather than a regular poll, we'll just set up the ideas in point form and all contributing writers will give their "yea" or "nay" on each one in a post in this topic. That way, if people have comments about each idea point (or a way to use it in addition to a main plot), they can post it with their vote.
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Jun 9 2004, 07:05 PM
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I think EvlPez is right about us coming to a consensus just by discussing it here... If it comes to a "tie" on some aspect, I think either Agrippa or EvlPez should have the final say... She started this thread and he's the Head Mugwump, so I consider either/both much like a play's director with "ultimate" decision-making authority. We all chat about plots and sub-plots here, brainstorm ideas (I bet we'll generally settle in on most with the same favourite ideas), and if there is any contention Agrippa and/or EvlPez choose. btw - I'm loving Riley's idea about the Q match being the focal point for the crisis. And EvlPez's logic that a critter won't do, has to be in Jacobsen's "field", and the side effects of "healing" of Lockhart sounds like a good possibility... especially with the kids thinking he's the bad guy when he's really the target.... basically everything she said in the above post.
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Jun 9 2004, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (evlpez @ Jun 9 2004, 06:00 PM) QUOTE Riley and Cat are right about Quidditch. A quidditch game during the Magic Council's meeting and somehow the pitch and stadium are enchanted into a trap? Absolutely - that could be the final confrontation! I mean - if Lockhart's the baddie, well... when he does something it's bound to be really big and with lots of publicity. Maybe the Council finishes deliberating around the time of Hogwarts' Quidditch Cup... good time to have press coverage at the Quidditch Pitch, and all the students, staff and Council members. Lockhart reveals himself and his plan for "world domination" by trapping all in the Stadium for... some reason. What would he want to do with them, though? I'm liking that idea [sorry if I'm interrupting anything here] but my question is, is how would he trap everyone, especially if it is such a big deal, I doubt if he'd be able to enchant something without notice.... Unless there is as spy/someone else helping him who has a certain amount of power? Or...perhaps all the Council members sit in the top box...and one member is helping Lockhart....? Yes, the question remains what he'd want to do with them...perhaps keep them hostage? QUOTE Perhaps Lockhart's change of personality (to an evil mastermind kinda guy) is the result of Jacobson's controversial healing practices. Before St. Mungos is allowed to adopt or publicly denounce his methods, the council has to review it and pass a law. In the meantime, Jacobson is suspended from practicing at all because he's used these methods without permission. His real reason for being at Hogwarts is to secretly monitor his former patient because he (and his wife) know the possible side effects of the treatment he gave Lockhart. Ah, good idea. But why would he care so much for one patient, unless he perhaps wants to prove to the council that he is a mastermind Healer, and become famous for discovering something totally new?! Or maybe he has a personal connection with Lockhart? QUOTE Would recovering from his time in St. Mungos transform him enough to become the sort of person who would? Perhaps this treatment he is given not only restores most of his memories, but builds of a feeling of mistreatment, which, cultivated [like Lockhart's might be after being confined to hospital] might result in abnormal hatred, or thirst for vengeance? This would explain why he'd go to such lengths for revenge. Well, hope I didn't totally muss things up!
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