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post May 25 2004, 12:14 PM
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I'd really like J2H to be the first ever Project Ferret novel. I know that we're all busy, but I also know that one of the reason's I've not written a lot lately is that I don't really know where things are going. That makes it hard to write.

Here's my proposal:

We (whoever's intersted) spend some time mapping out the plot of the story from where we are now to the end. We collaborate until we have a general agreement. Then we take turns writing the various sections, following the agreed-upon plot line.

What do y'all think?

For preliminary plot lines, here's what I've been thinking.

1. Lockhart is not really feeble - he's fully recovered and mad as hell, but playing "dumb." He wants revenge on the Hogwarts staff (McGonagall particularly) for forcing his hand that night he went into the chamber. He also wants revenge on Harry and Ron (and their offspring) for incapacitating him that night. Perhaps some dark wizard helped him regain his memory? (Lucius?)

2. It's Will Jacobson that's related to Dumbledore. He's Aberforth's son. His family trades in some kind of creature that the Magic Council is considering re-classifying as non-tradable. He and Alison are plotting to do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen, but they're not the real bad guys.

3. Something will happen to the witches and wizards of the magic council. (Mysterious disappearances or the like.) Although it will be Lockhart who did it (to lure Harry and Ron to rescue Hermione), James and the gang will naturally suspect Jacobson.

So let me know what you think in this topic. I'm open to suggestions, but I want to get this moving.
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post May 25 2004, 12:46 PM
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We (whoever's intersted) spend some time mapping out the plot of the story from where we are now to the end. We collaborate until we have a general agreement. Then we take turns writing the various sections, following the agreed-upon plot line.

What do y'all think?


I must agree. If this project is going to make any progress, I think it's going to have to become an Order of the Ferret thing. The writers who've contributed so far are evlpez, agrippa, McGonagall's Cat, bakbam, zymurgy, and pinkpanther.
I suggest we move this to the Order Forum and discuss the future of the story there. I think it might also be a good time for us as a group to go through what we already have and decide if any of it can be edited (due to irrelevant facts or to insert information that might be useful to later development). Any of these writers who want to continue to contribute to the project should say so before it's moved, so we know who's on board, ok?

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For preliminary plot lines, here's what I've been thinking.

1. Lockhart is not really feeble - he's fully recovered and mad as hell, but playing "dumb." He wants revenge on the Hogwarts staff (McGonagall particularly) for forcing his hand that night he went into the chamber. He also wants revenge on Harry and Ron (and their offspring) for incapacitating him that night. Perhaps some dark wizard helped him regain his memory? (Lucius?)

2. It's Will Jacobson that's related to Dumbledore. He's Aberforth's son. His family trades in some kind of creature that the Magic Council is considering re-classifying as non-tradable. He and Alison are plotting to do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen, but they're not the real bad guys.

3. Something will happen to the witches and wizards of the magic council. (Mysterious disappearances or the like.) Although it will be Lockhart who did it (to lure Harry and Ron to rescue Hermione), James and the gang will naturally suspect Lockhart. Jan's edit: You mean they'll suspect Jacobson, right? Agrippa: yes, of course. Ooops!


I've been blocked with this project for some time. :/ I'm really glad someone's been thinking about it. smile.gif I really like all of these ideas, agrippa! Can we go ahead with this line of thinking and develop it further? I'd like to hear from everyone on this. yes.gif


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post May 25 2004, 04:42 PM
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I am definetly interested in futher contributions to this story. smile.gif I like the ideas for chenges and think a plot line would be very helpful. I was stuck on where to go next otherwise I would be writing more on it.


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post May 25 2004, 07:51 PM
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I'd like to keep on writing with you...

but....

I'd like to keep it open to new blood, not "Order" it. There are many new members coming in right now, and as long as we've stated clearly that the general direction/mission is thus and so, I'd like to encourage anyone who's up for it to participate.

I haven't been blocked, I just worry about "hogging" too much of it, so have been waiting for the next submission by another writer each time...


As to plotlines....

I like the Gilderoy concept. [How might Lucius not succumb to the effects of Azkaban? Or did he?]

[3.... forshadowing/paralleling of this summer's Olympic games!?]


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post May 26 2004, 05:30 PM
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Moving to the "Order" section doesn't necessarily mean new people can't join in, does it? It just means that we have a pre-collabed structure that anyone who wants to add needs to abide by. I don't really carewhere we put it, as long as we get the plot moving.
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post May 26 2004, 07:03 PM
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Well then let's keep it here so that it's clear that others can join in. biggrin.gif


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post May 27 2004, 09:00 PM
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Guys, although your intentions are great, I doubt that any new 'blood' would join in...I mean, this J2H has been going on for a while...I tried to read a bit of the beginning...but the amount of posting that you have all done is so amazing...

Just putting in my two cents! [plonks down two cents]

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post May 28 2004, 08:27 AM
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Perhaps a shorter synopsis is in order - something that outlines the main points of the story (including future plot planning) so that other members can get a quick idea if it's something they want to invest more time in. Interested members can then go ahead and read the whole story-so-far and jump into the project.


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post May 30 2004, 04:49 PM
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Do I hear you volunteering to make the synopsis?

(We do need one, but I don't have time to right now... )



Moving right along...


About Jacobsen....
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He's Aberforth's son
. What happens if JKR blows us out of the water? It is possible that the person we occasionally hear about being Aberforth (who can't read/see well) is actually Dumbledore incogneto (without his glasses)? Though that is very speculative and we should probably just go with things as you've layed them out before us. . . but, like Clark Kent and Superman, you don't see them together... lol, life is never easy.

How are we going to influence the Council? We need to do something really creative, and have several "fronts" of attack / storylines going on simultaniously. Back-up plans. "Court intrigue"....

What kind of critter? Could we make it (or parts of it) essential to several potions, at least one of which is Dark so that feeds into the keeping it legal and banning it aspects? ...Or is a competitor trying to corner the market - someone who's in a position of power, but is not very scrupulous? Or is it the critter itself that's so dangerous as to warrant reclassification (like a lot of the Muggle cities are fiddling with certain breeds of dogs no longer being allowed within city limits)?




As to part of plot line idea #3....
Did you mean to say "Holding Hermione", or were you intending it to be one of the kids (James, Serena, Phillip, Freddy...)? If you did mean the adults, what is your logic for Hermione as the victim as opposed to any of the others? (She's strong and forceful, will be part of the new Order as soon as everything starts going sideways... It could work quite well depending on motivation/plot twists.) I could see the adults trying to get their kid(s) back, or Lockhart holding a particular adult, too/instead.

Do we want whoever is being held to be likely to try to plot a brilliant escape-from-the-inside while the others work from the outside? Or might that get too complicated?


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post May 30 2004, 04:55 PM
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About Jacobsen....
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He's Aberforth's son
. What happens if JKR blows us out of the water?


Well, I'm not too worried about that, since JK could blow us out of the water on multiple issues in this fic - who's dead and who's alive, who's married to whom, etc.

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Did you mean to say "Holding Hermione",


I did mean that that would be Lockhart's intention, to draw Harry and Ron - the real objects of his hatred - into some trap.
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He also wants revenge on Harry and Ron (and their offspring) for incapacitating him that night.
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(to lure Harry and Ron to rescue Hermione),



Tell more of your ideas here. How do you see having James' POV and illustrating all of these ideas?


The reason I asked about holding q/the kid(s), that could up the ante'... you can mess with my friends and I'll come after you, but mess with my kid and the stakes rise about 87 times that...


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post May 31 2004, 05:44 AM
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True enough. But we do want James to be one of the rescuers, rather than a rescuee, right? What if Lily and Freddy were accidentally sucked in because they were being nosy?
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post May 31 2004, 09:09 AM
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Or perhaps the youngest Potter, baby Albert? Or Serena?

I'm afraid I don't have enough time right now to do the synopsis, but I'm not so sure it should be done right away. I think we should first get some editing done to smooth out what we already have. We could arrange a schedule amongst ourselves to go through pieces of the story so far and edit it (so that we are editing each other's additions) to remove unneccesary stuff and put in things to set up the groovy plot line Agrippa's come up with.


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Journey to Hogwarts: The Plot So Far

For detailed character analysis, family trees, etc. please see Madam Pince's J2H Reference Library.

James Potter is on the Hogwarts Express, about to start his first year. He is ambivalent about being part of a famous family, and has not yet named the tawney owl he has with him. In a flashback, we see that James and his father are close. James' wand is described (Mahogony, 10 1/2 inches, dragon heartstring core) and James remembers Mr. Olivander saying that his choice was "interesting."

James is found by his cousin Serena, a very effusive red-head. She has with her a tall blonde boy named Philip McKenzie. Both of Philip's parents are muggles and he's from London. They talk about the sorting. Philip reveals that he has an uncle who is a wizard.

They discuss the teachers: McGonnagal, now headmistress; Neville, who's the Herboloty teacher; and Luna, now the DADA teacher. At that point, Lily, James' older sister, and their cousin Freddy enter. It's revealed that Percy and Fred are both dead.

They eat chocolate frogs, holding on to a card featuring Harry - they've been hiding them from him. At Lily and Freddy leave, Serena tells Philip that Lily and Freddy are "Marauders." There's a bang in the corridor, and Serena and Philip return to the compartment. Two Slytherin girls open the door accusing Lily and Freddy of setting off Whiz Bangs in the corridor.

James leaves the compartment, but Philip finds him. He asks about James' family, and we see once again how sensitive James is about that topic.

At this point, Duke Dursley (Dudley's son), also on his way to his first year of Hogwarts. He has two large friends with him, and it looks like their going to be a fight. Somehow, however, Philip uses some kind of magic to avoid the fight and leave the compartment.

Hagrid greets the first-years as they arrive. Neville takes them in to be sorted, and a teacher James doesn't know puts the hat out on the stool. James remembers a conversation with his dad about the houses. Philip, James, and Serena are all sorted in the Gryffindor, and Duke is sorted into Slytherin. After the feast, Lily goes to send an owl to their parents to tell them about Duke. We meet two more cousins, Finley and Fiona, who are Gryffindor Prefects and part Veela.

Philip and James meet two of their dormmates: Carson Bones and Allan Smith. In the night, James is awakened by a low moaning, and he sees Philip get out of bed, hold out his hands, and stop the sound - Allan moaning in his sleep. When they discuss it the next morning, Philip has no recollection of the event.

First class is Herbology with the Slytherins. Duke starts in on James from the beginning, but Neville will have none of it. During the class, a plant attacks Duke because he's being rude and careless. Duke blames this event on Serena, and they have a confrontation after class. James and Philip intervene, but Serena hits Duke with an allergy charm. Neville taeks the trio to task for duelling, but doen't punish them when he hears the whole story.

They go to charms, which is now being taught by Lockhart. He's still a bit of a mess. Philip take the opportunity to rag Lockhart a bit, who asks him to demonstrate a charm. In the class are Duke and his big friends, Athol McMagnus and Claude Jugson. Philip demonstrates the Lumos charm, and makes a joke about Prof. Lockhart and trying to get his "lights" to come on. On the way out, Serana strikes up a friendship with a Slyterhin girl named Penelope.

Potions is being taught by Viktor Krum, who opens by putting the students under the influence of a Stupor Draught. For homework, Krum offers 50 points to anyone who can tell him how they might have avoided the effects of the potion.

In the common room, they talk about the assignment. Charlie Weasley (Jr.) reminds them of the Bubble Head Charm that Cedric Diggory used in the Tri-Wizard Tourney so many years ago. Charlie is the quidditch captain for Gryffindor.

On the way to dinner, Philip and James overhear two people plotting something, a man and a woman. The woman, they think, is the new astronomy teacher. They then run into Krum; but Serena has already answered the question.

They run into Duke and three cronies near the Slytherin common room, and threatening remarks are once again exchanged. At dinner, Lily taunts James about having not named his owl. James goes up to the owlry to write to his parents, in which he names the owl Prometheus.

Back in the common room, Philip tells James that the new astronomy teacher is related to Dumbledore, a fact he heard from Charlie. Carson Bones is revealed to be Susan Bone's nephew. (Susan was killed in the last battle with the DEs.)

The next day begins with DADA. Luna begins by teaching them about puffskeins, which have a calming effect on the students. She also introduces them to a Runespoor. Penelope tells Serena that Duke's planning to get James and his friends in trouble.

Binns is still teaching History of Magic and still as boring as ever. Prometheus arrives during lunch with a letter for James from Harry, and a package that he's instructed not to open in the Great Hall.

Transfiguration is next. Professor Jacobson is the teacher, and his wife is the new astronomy teacher. He denies that his wife is Dumbledore's neice. James and Duke have an altercation after class, and James casts a spell which hits a picture behind the professor's desk. Duke and his cronies escape, but Prof. Jacobson gives James and Philip detention.

At dinner, Prof. McGonnagal announce that Hogwarts will host the Council of Magic in March. Detention with Prof. Jacobson means cleaning the owlry, magic free. After detention, the boys race back to the common room to open the package from Harry. It turns out to be a book on the History of the Councils of Magic (which Hermione had sent all of the cousins) and tickets to a Quidditch World Cup Qualifier.

In the middle of the night Philip wakes James up and they sneak downstairs. Freddy and Lily are sneaking out of the common room, and Philip and James follow them. They end up at the Potions store-room, where they are nearly seen by Jacobson and his wife, who are plotting something. Krum arrives to check on a potion, interrupting whatever Jacobson and wife are up to.

The next day, James invites his dormmates to the Cup Qualifier match. He goes to the owlry to send a note to Harry with those details. On the way, they see Prof. Jacobson in an empty classroom, and they see him climb inside a wardrobe. The boys sent notes to their parents about the match. Sean Wiles, the fifth roomie, reveals the Will Jacobson's wife, Alison Wiles, is his father's cousin. They are interrupted by Alison herself.

Jacobson shows up a dinner followed by a rainbow of colors. Both Luna and Lockhart are unsuccessful at stopping the spell, but McGonngal manages it. Philip asks for Lily's help with charms so that James can get Freddy alone to ask about last night's adventures. He finally gets Freddy to talk about what happened, but Freddy doesn't reveal what he and Lily are planning.

All four of them sit down to tell what they know about the Jacobsons. They go to find Charlie to ask him again about Alison Wiles' relationship to Dumbledore, but they can't find him.

In herbology the next day, Neville introduces Venomous Tentacula. Charms is uneventful. Freddy tells them that he finally asked Charlie, who confirms that Alison Wiles is Dumbledore's niece, but was disowned when she married Jacobson, who was mixed up at some point with Voldemort. Prof. Wiles again appears to shush them.

As October flies by, the first Quidditch match - Gryffindor v. Ravenclaw - looms near. The first years are preparing for a major herbology exam. Harry writes James to confirm the details for the Cup Qualifier match.
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Question: is this the whole story in a nutshell? Or just the first installment of the plot summary?

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