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Vlad
post Oct 31 2003, 06:06 AM
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Ronsmyman asked this up in Ferret Wheel but it seems to me its a questions for all the areas. Canon is one of those thing "I know it when I see it". But I find it harder to define exactly when something stops being canon. Anything taking place before year 6 can be pretty well pinned down. but is anything from Year 6 onward always "Alternate Universe" (AU)?

If you write a very plausible year 6 story with Ron and Hermione dating is that canon because it's pretty likely from what we know that they might become a couple? How about Hermione and Draco? That one seems pretty uncanon to me (although I've read some very good stories that posit that very thing and back themselves up with canonlike logic). But what about Herione and Harry? Are all 'ship's AU? Is any story with Sirius alive (again) after year 5 AU? Or with Snape being nice to Harry?

Is it only canon if JKR wrote it or is it canon if you write it in such a way that it seamlessly and logically with what JKR has written?

What do you guys think? (other than that parodies are never canon so why is Ronsmyman even asking this question?)


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post Dec 5 2004, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (agrippa @ Mar 6 2004, 10:17 AM)
2. We've seen that wands of other wizards will work for other people. Barty Crouch uses Harry's (and, presumably, Mad-Eye Moody's). Wormtail uses Voldemort's. Sirius uses Snape's. If people can use the wands of others - even of their enemies - then why can't someone just pick up a wand for Sirius in Diagon alley? It might not be the "perfect" wand for him, but it might work pretty well.

This stirred a thought. In PS, Mr. Ollivanders had said that it's the wand which chooses the wizard, and that it will not have the same results with any other witch or wizard, if I remember correctly. I see it, that one might not be able to use the wand, because it would cause totally different results if a spell is cast. But, if, as shown, a wizard can use another's wand, and it produces the desired effects, why not just go in the shop, and choose any wand?


I've got a question on canon in general. I've never been able to keep straight to the way it is defined, probably because I have never really understood it. I have read the Lexicon part where canon is mentioned, and it says that only what JK wrote or said is canon. Therefore, whatever we write here, can be said not be canon right? If you have an idea, and you use it in a story, it might be true to character, but not to canon. Or am I mixing things up?


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- Vlad   What is canon?   Oct 31 2003, 06:06 AM
- - agrippa   Techinically, I think canon includes the following...   Oct 31 2003, 07:29 AM
- - ronsmyman   QUOTE (Vlad @ Oct 31 2003, 06:06 AM)(other th...   Oct 31 2003, 10:27 AM
- - Vlad   QUOTE (ronsmyman @ Oct 31 2003, 04:27 PM)QUOT...   Oct 31 2003, 10:47 AM
- - zymurgy   Canon big iron thing. Go BOOM! Then Smoke. The...   Nov 1 2003, 04:14 PM
- - ronsmyman   QUOTE (Vlad @ Oct 31 2003, 10:47 AM)which is ...   Nov 1 2003, 11:05 PM
- - moonbeam3243   *ignoring Ronsmyman's wet pants * Hmmm... ...   Nov 1 2003, 11:30 PM
- - evlpez   No, Moonbeam. I think it's fine in Canon Fodde...   Nov 1 2003, 11:45 PM
- - ronsmyman   Hmmm, that's true, I think I might just submit...   Nov 2 2003, 12:08 AM
- - evlpez   I'm going to write for this one - as soon as I...   Nov 2 2003, 12:10 AM
- - moonbeam3243   Yay! I can't wait to read 'em! S...   Nov 3 2003, 08:07 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   OK folks... How many angels CAN dance on the head ...   Nov 4 2003, 12:12 AM
- - McGonagall's Cat   aarrgghh!!!! Those numbers were a...   Nov 4 2003, 12:19 AM
- - Vlad   QUOTE (McGonnagal's Cat @ Nov 4 2003, 06:...   Nov 4 2003, 04:09 AM
- - ronsmyman   Your Weasley kid timeline only had two problems th...   Nov 4 2003, 09:59 AM
- - evlpez   QUOTE As for Gary Oldman, he is 55, He might be a ...   Nov 4 2003, 11:20 AM
- - McGonagall's Cat   I gotta disagree Vlad... I LOVE the casting Chris...   Nov 4 2003, 02:55 PM
- - Vlad   QUOTE (McGonnagal's Cat @ Nov 4 2003, 08:...   Nov 4 2003, 03:05 PM
- - moonbeam3243   Well, I was just going to refer you to the Lexicon...   Nov 4 2003, 06:03 PM
- - moonbeam3243   Hmmm... I posted the last one without realizing t...   Nov 4 2003, 06:07 PM
- - agrippa   On the timeline issue, here's the direct link ...   Nov 4 2003, 09:25 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   This has zip to do with Project Ferret, but though...   Nov 4 2003, 09:53 PM
- - ronsmyman   Wow, that's really neat! I wish I had that...   Nov 4 2003, 10:16 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   Thanks for the Lexicon suggestion, butI had alread...   Nov 4 2003, 10:19 PM
- - Vlad   QUOTE (McGonnagal's Cat @ Nov 5 2003, 04:...   Nov 4 2003, 10:54 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   Thanks Agrippa! That timeline (which I hadn...   Nov 4 2003, 11:17 PM
- - zymurgy   *reads last few posts* Errr.. *Stare* THE HORROR...   Nov 6 2003, 04:01 PM
- - bakbam   One thing you seem to have forgotten is that in Go...   Nov 6 2003, 11:30 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   Thanks Bakbam. Hey! Everybody! Need to g...   Nov 7 2003, 01:35 AM
- - McGonagall's Cat   <Does it count as a double post if it's 3 m...   Mar 5 2004, 11:18 PM
- - agrippa   I don't have a canon answer for that, but I...   Mar 6 2004, 10:17 AM
- - StarWalker   Other possibilities include: 1. He didn't tur...   Aug 21 2004, 01:39 PM
- - evlpez   Here's another possibility: It's never be...   Aug 21 2004, 01:58 PM
- - McGonagall's Cat   "In charater" is a very goodway to think...   Dec 5 2004, 03:14 PM
- - zymurgy   Canon big iron thing. Go boom! Then Forum go...   Dec 5 2004, 06:07 PM
- - cherabela   QUOTE (McGonagall's Cat @ Dec 5 2004, 03:...   Dec 6 2004, 10:48 AM
- - zymurgy   There's also those hard to place fics, where s...   Dec 6 2004, 11:07 AM
- - cherabela   With that idea in my mind, I think I should go ove...   Dec 6 2004, 11:15 AM


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